Michael Jackson Candid About Madonna, Lisa Marie Presley

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In Rabbi Shmuley Boteach's never-before-released recordings of Michael Jackson that aired on "Dateline" Friday night, the late King of Pop paints Madonna as jealous, says his ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley broke his heart, and claims his father delivered savage beatings with an ironing cord.

Boteach sat down with NBC's Meredith Vieira in an exclusive interview prior to the release of his book: The Michael Jackson Tapes: A Tragic Icon Reveals His Soul in Intimate Conversation.

The rabbi recorded these conversations -- with Jackson's permission -- between 1999 and 2001. "Dateline" says that in them, Jackson describes feeling dejected that his ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley reportedly didn't want to have children.

"She promised me that before we married, that would be the first thing we'd do is have children. So I was broken-hearted and I walked around all the time holding these little baby dolls and I'd be crying, that's how badly I wanted it, you know," Jackson says.

On his relationship with Madonna, Jackson says: "You know, at the time I was with Madonna, she was into books, all over, a whole collec-- like a library of books of women who were tied to walls, different things. She said, 'I love spanky books.' Why would I want to see that? I think she likes shock value."

He also refers to Madonna while talking about jealousy in Hollywood: "They admire you and know you're wonderful and great, but just they're jealous 'cause they wish they were in your place, wish they were in your shoes. And 'M' is one of 'em. Madonna. She's not a nice, she hasn't been kind…"

When asked on tape by Shmuley if he thought Madonna was jealous, Jackson replies, "Absolutely."

Reflecting on growing up with his siblings, he claims about his father Joe Jackson: "He was rough. The way he would beat you, you know, was hard, you know. Sometime he [would] take, um, he would make you strip nude first. He would oil you down. It would be a whole ritual. He would oil you down so when the flip of the ironing cord hit you, you know. And it would just like be dying and you had whips all over your face, your back, everywhere.

"And I always hear my mother, 'No, Joe! You're gonna kill 'em. You're gonna kill 'em, no!' I would just give up, like there was nothing I could do, you know? And I, and I hated him for it, hated him."

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Published 9/26/09 by the Insider

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  • i love you mj.r.i.p
    i would of made you happy.theresa xxxxxx
    like i said any woman to give up mj must be clinicly insane!!
    theresamj 11/21/09 Reply
  • rabbi never actually said whwt he thought about everything.???JACKSON TELLS THE TRUTH..
    well any girl who gave up michael as a husband and a father,must be totally insane.
    he was the sexist warm hearted guy on this planet,his sweet smile.i would...
    Anonymous 11/21/09 Reply
  • You know,ranting that Michael said all of this comments,i think it's good to know that MJ is still a human being. And thats good for him. But one thing I could understand is, WHY Rabbi Schmuley published these supposedly confidential interview with...
    Anonymous 11/11/09 Reply
  • P Diddy: "He showed that you can actually see the beat. He made the music come to life. He made me believe in magic."

    Here I've tried to collect all notable tributes and quotes on Michael Jackson from peers:...
    DavudM 10/30/09 Reply
  • site best
    Anonymous 10/3/09 Reply
  • wow! shocking stories news it's hard to belive. you know too much of this and that i don't know who or what to believe anymore?
    Anonymous 10/2/09 Reply
  • When I read that blog of LM after Mj passed, I saw it for what it was- it was to get the blame off her. She went on Oprah, Diane Sawyer and everywhere else to bash him in 2005 when he was on trail for his life. That blog was to cover her own behind....
    Anonymous 10/2/09 Reply
    • She claimed to be naive but anyone who smoked at 9 went on to drugs and sex and rehab is not naive. She was vengeful and the timing was no mistake.
      If was a blessing no kids came from the union. She lied knowing she didn't want kids. MJ said is was...
      Anonymous 10/2/09
  • Just imagine if Lisa Marie had given Michael a male child. The talent that kid would had running through it's veins. Boy wouldn't that kid be under pressure. To follow in Grandpa and Dad's foot steps. I could only imagine.
    Anonymous 10/1/09 Reply
  • i don't understand is why get married if you feel the marriage won't work? plus if she didn't want children then she shouldn't have never made the promise to michael. she full of it. when she didn't want to have kids it was over. i didn't know who...
    Anonymous 9/30/09 Reply
  • DO NOT BUY HIS BOOK !!!
    Anonymous 9/30/09 Reply
  • always knew madonna was mad because she liked him and he didn't. back in the 90's she use talk really mad about. i never like madonna. all she know how to do is sele sex.
    Anonymous 9/30/09 Reply
  • i felt sorry for him he wanted kids with lisa and she didnt want to,i am sorry but she was a bitch she said she loved him thats bull
    Anonymous 9/29/09 Reply
  • Michael had already kept his not so nice opinions to himself and never bad-mouthed another artist, ever in public. he treated them with respect publicly. what more do you want? you can't possibly think that he can not be entitled to an opinion of...
    Anonymous 9/28/09 Reply
  • Given that Michael Jackson is more widely known than anyone, why will Madonna not be jealous? FACT: he has the best selling album of ALL TIME by far. FACT: there is only ONE undisputed King Of Pop and that is him. FACT: Madonna is still competing...
    Anonymous 9/28/09 Reply
  • Yea Michael Jackson was found "not guilty" in a California court, what a joke.. the same court system that found OJ not guilty.. must be the glove thing with both. You seem to forget he paid millions to the child victims family to drop the child...
    Anonymous 9/28/09 Reply
    • excuse me you seem to have forgotten this http://floacist.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/the-settlement-did-jackson-admit-to-any-wrongdoing/#comment-6932

      unlike you I have read the official court transcripts and real facts. have you? if you claim you did...
      Anonymous 9/28/09
    • Okay to you about the California court...Think about this. Would you take money from someone who harm your child? I wouldn't take a dime. I would want JUSTICE. Not MONEY.
      Anonymous 10/1/09
    • And I would fight for that justice. If MJ was so guilty they could have filed a civil suit after the criminal trial. Why didn't they? Because MONEY was what it was all about in the first place.
      Anonymous 10/1/09
    • They didn't want not criminal trial. They got what they wanted. They took the money and ran. I would not have taken a penny from someone who Ithought harm my child. NOT A PENNY!!!!!!!!
      Anonymous 10/1/09
    • So put it to rest... MJ was found not guilty 14 times. NOT GUILTY 14 times. So leave MJ the heck alone. He was not a child molester!!!!!!!!!
      Anonymous 10/1/09
    • At least if you are gonna talk crap know what you are dealing with. His insurance company paid a victim and you obviously know little about Cali if not you would know insurance companies can make such decisions without his permission. Secondly, it...
      Anonymous 10/2/09
    • ..it said negligence and they could still have filed both civil and criminal cases, why didn't they? And would you take the money?
      Anonymous 10/2/09
    • Moreover you seem to forget that the mother of Gavin, the child who was ‘supposedly’ molested, was found guilty of brainwashing her children. She was proved to have psychological problems and her husband even said she used to invent stories in which...
      Anonymous 10/5/09
    • you saying that mj cannot be found innocent in this court because OJ was found not guilty with the same system is like saying no one should live in the US because of what happened the 11/01...it's irrational...
      Anonymous 10/5/09
    • The day Michael Jackson is proved guilty of child molestation is the day Hitler is canonized as being a Saint by the church.
      Anonymous 10/5/09